Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
From: billbill
Date: 1996/08/06
Subject: The Nation of Islam and UFO's, How much is true?
I read in Emerge magazine that the major difference between the Nation of Islam and the
Islam of the Middle East is the Nation of Islam's belief in UFO's. The article said
that the Nation of Islam professes the earth was only populated with 'Blacks' until
5000 years ago when UFO's landed and did experiments and which created the 'white
devil'.
I remember the news captions during the '80's how Farrakan stated he went into a UFO
and met with Elijah Muhaamed.
If this is true, then I have no choice but to rank the Nation of Islam up there with
other racist influenced American bred cults such as the Mormons.
Any other facts or opinions on this subject?
My source, Emerge Magazine, circa 1992, article titled "Divided Nation" which
contrasts the paths of Farrakan and Elijah Muhaamed's son (who chose true Islam - as
Malcolm X did before his assasination) since the death of Elijah Muhaamed.
Richard A. Muhammad
Aug 7 1996, 4:00 pm
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From: f...@primenet.com (Richard A. Muhammad)
Date: 1996/08/07
Subject: Re: The Nation of Islam and UFO's, How much is true?
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In article <4u6neu$...@oracle.damerica.net>, billb...@community.net
(Sunspot) wrote:
> I read in Emerge magazine that the major difference between the Nation
of Islam and the
> Islam of the Middle East is the Nation of Islam's belief in UFO's.
The Holy Quran refers to them, so does the Bible ("pillars of clouds by
day / pillars of fire by night").
>The article said
> that the Nation of Islam professes the earth was only populated with
'Blacks' until
> 5000 years ago when UFO's landed and did experiments and which created
the 'white
> devil'.
Ask Dr. Leakey---he'll tell you. Also ask any truthful geneticist, who'll
tell you that Black can produce white (because it's original), but
caucasians cannot produce Blacks.
> I remember the news captions during the '80's how Farrakan stated he
went into a UFO
> and met with Elijah Muhaamed.
Wasn't a UFO. It was The Mother Plane, also referred to in the Bible as
Ezekiel's Wheel.
> If this is true, then I have no choice but to rank the Nation of Islam
up there with
> other racist influenced American bred cults such as the Mormons.
And Barr GOldwater, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, Neil Armstrong, John
Glenn, and other "cult members" who have pulbicly stated either seeing
"UFOs" or having investigated the government's knowledge of them.
Furthermore, why denigrate the Muslims and Mormons? You could rightfully
call the Catholic Church a cult. People who eat the flesh and blood of
Jesus. A Priest gives you a wafer, and says that it's "transformed" into
Jesus's flesh. Why would you eat your flesh of your God? And if millions
of Catholics have been eating the transformed flesh (wafers) and blood
(wine) of Jesus for thoousands of year, and he's still not ate up, the
Jesus of the Catholics must have been one tall, fat dude.
And who are you to do the ranking? God? (Wow, God uses e-mail. Heavy......)
> Any other facts or opinions on this subject?
Only facts. No opinions.
> My source, Emerge Magazine, circa 1992, article titled "Divided Nation" which
> contrasts the paths of Farrakan and Elijah Muhaamed's son (who chose
true Islam - as
> Malcolm X did before his assasination) since the death of Elijah Muhaamed.
What is "true" Islam. Are you a Muslim? Do you own a Quran? Please show
me, verse for verse, in the Quran (which you obviously are a scholar of,
since you know what "true Islam" is) where anything Minsiter Farrakhan
teaches is not Islamic.
John McGregor
Aug 10 1996, 4:00 pm
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From: yorkt...@timetrend.com (John McGregor)
Date: 1996/08/10
Subject: Re: The Nation of Islam and UFO's, How much is true?
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>The Holy Quran refers to them, so does the Bible ("pillars of clouds by
>day / pillars of fire by night").
You shoud read less Dune.
>>The article said
>> that the Nation of Islam professes the earth was only populated with
>'Blacks' until
>> 5000 years ago when UFO's landed and did experiments and which created
>the 'white
>> devil'.
>Ask Dr. Leakey---he'll tell you. Also ask any truthful geneticist, who'll
>tell you that Black can produce white (because it's original), but
>caucasians cannot produce Blacks.
This is far to absurd to deserve comment, I think it stand on its own
as racist garbage.
>> I remember the news captions during the '80's how Farrakan stated he
>went into a UFO
>> and met with Elijah Muhaamed.
>Wasn't a UFO. It was The Mother Plane, also referred to in the Bible as
>Ezekiel's Wheel.
So God had an audience with a racist mad-man, eh? Makes a lot of
sense.
>> If this is true, then I have no choice but to rank the Nation of Islam
>up there with
>> other racist influenced American bred cults such as the Mormons.
>And Barr GOldwater, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, Neil Armstrong, John
>Glenn, and other "cult members" who have pulbicly stated either seeing
>"UFOs" or having investigated the government's knowledge of them.
>Furthermore, why denigrate the Muslims and Mormons? You could rightfully
>call the Catholic Church a cult. People who eat the flesh and blood of
>Jesus. A Priest gives you a wafer, and says that it's "transformed" into
>Jesus's flesh. Why would you eat your flesh of your God? And if millions
>of Catholics have been eating the transformed flesh (wafers) and blood
>(wine) of Jesus for thoousands of year, and he's still not ate up, the
>Jesus of the Catholics must have been one tall, fat dude.
As a devout Roman Catholic, I take strong offense at this. Jesus
Christ fed the masses with a few loaves and fish. If he can turn a
finite number into an infinate number, why should it be hard to belive
in infinate transubstantiation? If you say that he cannot do this,
then you are limeting God. One cannot limet God. And the 'Jesus of
the Catholics' is the same Jesus that is worshpied by the Baptists,
Mormons, Methodists, Anglicans, ect. There was only one Son of God.
>And who are you to do the ranking? God? (Wow, God uses e-mail. Heavy......)
Of course God uses e-mail! I'll bet Calypso Louie (you call him
Farrakhan (sic)), has megs and megs of holy e-mail. After all, if God
talked to such a madman once, it is only logical to say that he keeps
in regular communication with him.
>> Any other facts or opinions on this subject?
>Only facts. No opinions.
>> My source, Emerge Magazine, circa 1992, article titled "Divided Nation" which
>> contrasts the paths of Farrakan and Elijah Muhaamed's son (who chose
>true Islam - as
>> Malcolm X did before his assasination) since the death of Elijah Muhaamed.
>What is "true" Islam. Are you a Muslim? Do you own a Quran? Please show
>me, verse for verse, in the Quran (which you obviously are a scholar of,
>since you know what "true Islam" is) where anything Minsiter Farrakhan
>teaches is not Islamic.
I have met members of what some call True Islam, and by this I mean
arabs who follow the traditional Islam of the Mid-East. They are
nice, level-headed people as deovted to the Lord as I am. I have also
met members of Calypso Louie's Islam, the entirity of which have been
utter nuts and racists. Calypso Louie has bastardized and corrupted
an honorable faith that has filled peoples' lives and led them to the
Lord just like Judiaism and Catholicism.
Honorably,
John McGregor
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